Virginia Seidel : Minnie Fay with Dorothy Lamour, Sheila MacRae, and Sylvia Syms!
Virginia Seidel |
In 1971, Virginia Seidel appeared in Hello, Dolly at the Milwaukee Melody Top with Dorothy Lamour and
Jack Bailey. That was her first adventure as Minnie Fay.
Virginia started out as a little “brat” at her mother’s
dancing school in a suburb of Chicago. As she got a little older, Virginia’s
mom decided not to have her around the studio because she was causing
trouble. She started going to another
school, with a more serious approach to ballet. That led her to getting cast in
George Balanchine’s Nutcracker. For
two seasons, when they were in Chicago, they cast Chicago residents to round
out the cast. Each time, interestingly enough, it was at Easter! Virginia’s mother
just happened to know the ballet mistress, Vita Brown. Later on, Virginia got
to play a page in the Royal Ballet production of The Sleeping Beauty when she was in the eighth grade. She kept on
with her ballet training which is very fortunate because it got her into
Actor’s Equity at the St. Louis MUNY Opera. That was the summer of 1968. While
she was appearing there, Pearl Bailey brought her Dolly Company to the MUNY the
week of July 30th. It was a huge hit! The MUNY Company was also
thrilled that they had those nights off. They got to see the show. Pearl Bailey’s
singing was superb. Later on Virginia also saw Ethel Merman and was blown away
by her singing. That same summer, Virginia did Call Me Madam with Merman as part of the ensemble. After Virginia
the MUNY and moved to New York, Merman was starring in Dolly on Broadway. This
was the summer of 1969.
That led to her going to New York City. She had met so many
other dancers who were about her age. Four women including Virginia decided to
room together to cut costs.
They were all dancers. Renee Bauman ended up
getting Applause and eventually A Chorus Line. Julie Pars was in the original Follies.
Another continued in ballet and opera work. Virginia went along taking classes
with Luigi. One of her first jobs that she got in New York was Take Me Along at the Meadowbrook Dinner
Theater with Ray Milland. This was before Love
Story came out.
The director of Meadowbrook Dinner Theater was Stuart
Bishop. During the summer, he was the artistic director of Milwaukee’s Melody
Top and that is how she ended up there two years later. He had cast her in The Boyfriend with Leland Palmer at
Meadowbrook and consequently. Leland was supposed to be Minnie Fay for Stuart
at Melody Top but she got cast in the National tour of Applause and she
recommended Virginia and she got the part.
Ray Milland in Take Me Along |
She was very excited to get
cast especially since it was kind of handed to her. She was thrilled. She never
thought that something like that would ever happen to her where she didn’t have
to audition for something. That didn’t happen a lot after.
Because of Virginia’s work at St. Louis Opera and
Meadowbrook, she had appeared with stars of Dorothy Lamour’s status. She had
appeared with Douglas Fairbanks in My
Fair Lady at The MUNY. She did Call
Me Madam with Merman, and The Pajama
Game with John Rait. There was an ensemble of twenty-four dancers and
thirty-six singers, an ensemble of sixty! Virginia was part of that ensemble.
As far as being a principal, appearing alongside Dorothy Lamour was a big
first. Lamour was so nice to everybody.
The Gower Champion choreography was what attracted her most
to Hello, Dolly! It is such a
beautiful dancing show.
(Courtesy: Dan Pagel ("Memories of Melody Top") |
Lamour had done a huge tour of Dolly prior to doing it at
Melody Top. This was 1971 and she was 57 at the time. They rehearsed a week and
it was in the round outside. This was in the days of Tent Theater. She never had
a cross word about anyone or anything. Everything just sailed along. They were
so busy that there wasn’t much time for socializing. However, Lamour did throw
a party for the company. Her husband was also a very nice man, always helping
out with everything. Also, Don George, who was Cornelius, was a very good
friend of hers. That was a very good idea. He appeared with her in several
productions of Dolly and added to her confidence. Lamour was also concerned for
Virginia after the first act one night. Virginia fell in the pit! She had to
bouree, a dance step, backwards. She was doing this step, facing Lamour, as she
is saying goodbye, and she fell in the pit. It happened again the very next
day! Lamour insisted on them changing that step to avoid it happening a third
time. With the original choreography, that was meant to be done in a proscenium
where Minnie is backing off backwards into the wings. There was always someone
to catch her. In the round, a good portion of that round is a pit.
Virginia did not remain in touch with Lamour after this production.
It was a typical summer stock
production. They rehearsed for seven days and ran for two weeks. Once the show
was up and running, Virginia was rehearsing their next production, George M, during the day.
(Courtesy: Dan Pagel ("Memories of Melody Top") |
Virginia loved appearing as Minnie Fay in this production as
she did with the ones to follow. She loved playing Minnie; Elegance was a favorite of hers every performance. The script is so
good. She always got a huge laugh, as she is sure all Minnies have, when Mrs.
Molloy desires to take a taxi and Cornelius insists on them walking. He can’t
afford it and says, “Really elegant people walk.” Minnie says, “To think I’ve
been elegant all of my life and I never knew it!” It is an innocent line but
always got a huge laugh every performance. Virginia was not that experienced as an
actress when she first played Minnie Fay. She also brought that innocence to her portrayal.
The lines just carried her in addition to the very experienced cast she was
with. Most had appeared in Dolly previously either on Broadway or on tour.
She just slipped right in and matched up with
everyone.
(Courtesy: Dan Pagel ("Memories of Melody Top") |
Minnie Fay first appears mid Act in Act One. After that, she
is kind of onstage for almost all of the rest of the act. The hat shop scene
leads into the big dance number at the end of the act. She learned early on
that she really had to warm up in preparation for each performance. She took a
dance class each day. It was during Sunday Clothes that she was always
backstage plie-ing and pointing. She knew, otherwise, she would not have a
chance. She has maintained that discipline and preparation throughout her
career since then.
Virginia was young when she played Minnie Fay and brought
that youth to the show. She also had great ballet training.
(Courtesy: Dan Pagel ("Memories of Melody Top") |
The dancing suited
her. She was never much of a jazz dancer. Ballet was the main part of her dance.
She was always go grateful to have been cast. Two of the productions were
directed by Stuart Bishop.
In addition to the Lamour Company, Virginia also did
it with Sheila MacRae. That was done at Meadowbrook which followed the
Milwaukee Company. Two years later, Virginia appeared as Minnie Fay for the
last time. That was with Sylvia Syms.
Streisand on the set of the film Dolly with son Jason |
Virginia did audition for the 1978 Carol
Channing but did not get it. Truthfully, she was a little too old for Minnie
Fay at the time. When the movie came out
in December 1969, Virginia saw it. She thought it was very lavish. Of course,
Barbra was the youngest Dolly ever.
All three Dollys were very different. Dorothy was so beloved
by the audiences who remembered her from her film career. They were thrilled to
see her LIVE and in person.
None of these Dollys were really “singers”. Sylvia was a great jazz nightclub singer.
Sylvia Syms was 66 when she appeared in
Dolly in ’73 throughout the Boston area. She had also been in a terrible auto
accident. The Company was worried as to whether or not she would be able to
make it through the rehearsal period. It is an extremely demanding show. She
wasn’t a stage actress. Her voice tended to be more of a smoky nightclub jazz
sound. She really put across that lower East side type of persona in Dolly.
Lamour had done a National bus and truck tour and Vegas prior to Melody Top |
Virginia’s favorite Dollys of the ones she appeared with was
Sheila. Dorothy was wonderful, but that was only three weeks. She didn’t really
didn’t get to know her. Her run with Sheila was two months and it was during
the Christmas season. The theater supplied her with a limousine and she very
often brought the four principals back into the city with her after the evening
performances. She took them to Downey’s and PJ Clarke’s. She always picked up
the tab. Virginia was agog. She had a big Christmas party at her town house. Virginia
had never been in a townhouse before in which the owner’s owned the entire
building! She was floored. Her daughter
Heather was there. She was appearing in Hair
at the time.
Barnaby and Cornelius’ adventures in New York reminded
Virginia of her own experiences of coming from a small suburb and moving to New
York City. Even though Virginia grew up outside Chicago and even worked in
Chicago as a dancer, everybody desires to get to New York. It is such an optimistic show. It has a
wonderful feeling about it. The fact that it has been performed all over the
world and continues to be performed is proof in the pudding.
When Virginia was younger, she didn’t pay much attention to
the fact that Dolly is a widow. She remembers being confused by the name/ Who
was she? Levi or Gallagher? She also remembers, at first, wondering “Who and
where is this Ephraim she keeps talking to?” Looking back now as an older
woman, Virginia realizes even more so how moving those speeches are. Virginia
is now a widow herself. It is very touching that she is seeking a sign of
Ephraim’s approval for her to marry Horace.
Jerry Herman |
Virginia also feels that Jerry Herman has also made such a
great contribution to the world. At the top of his reign, it was musical comedy
as opposed to musical theater. Virginia has also appeared in Mame as Gloria Upson.
The Sylvia Syms tour traveled throughout the Boston area
appearing in a chain of dinner theaters called the Chateau de Ville. It was
reputed to be mafia owned and operated. People called it Chateau de Vile. They
were actually wonderful theaters. They were big theaters with HUGE lobbies.
They were nice stages.
They had union orchestras. The costumes were gorgeous.
The salaries were good. When these theaters opened, the locals were expecting these
to be casinos. The hope was that when and if gambling was legalized, they were
ready. It, of course, never happened. The final leg of this tour was in Warwick
Rhode Island.
There were three theaters in the Boston area, one in Providence,
and on in Warwick. This was at the peak of the dinner theater boom. It is sad
that it didn’t last because it employed a lot of people. It was also great
experience. Summer stock was already disappearing from our cultural landscape.
Sylvia Syms |
Closing night, Virginia had already been out of New York
City for six months. It was a good job, but everyone was anxious to get home. Things
were winding down and it was time to go home. Because Sylvia was an older
woman, there weren’t a lot of parties with the cast. She needed her rest. She
wasn’t hanging out with the cast.
Virginia loved Minnie Fay. She loved being part of three
very different Dollys. When she auditioned for the Chateau de Ville Dolly, she
had an agent by this time and she was submitted. She went in and auditioned for
Jack Timmers. He was one of the three original stage managers on Hello, Dolly! He was a partner of Lowell
Purvis, who was one of the dancers in the show. Dolly had three stage managers,
Pat Tolson, Lucia Victor, and Jack Timmers. When Virginia auditioned for the
Chateau de Ville Company, they did not know her. She came in and read
initially. They had her come back and dance for them. Before she walked out of
that audition, Timmers said to her, “Where have you been all of our lives?” As if to say she was a great Minnie Fay and
they had never seen her before. Perhaps she would have been a Broadway Minnie
if the opportunity had presented itself at the right time.
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Thank
you Virginia Seidel for the gifts you have given to the world and will continue
to give!
With grateful XOXOXs ,
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Check out my site celebrating my forthcoming book on Hello, Dolly!
I desire this to be a definitive account of Hello, Dolly! If any of you reading this have appeared in any production of Dolly, I'm interested in speaking with you!
Do you have any pics?
If you have anything to add or share, please contact me at Richard@RichardSkipper.com.
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Please do what YOU can to be more aware that words and actions DO HURT...but they can also heal and help!
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What a lovely account of Ms. Seidel's experiences with not one but three different Dolly companies! What a thrilling time that must have been for her--I was delighted to read about it all, and thank you Richard, for sharing it with us!
ReplyDeleteMs. Seidel is a charming and funny woman, and I'm happy to have spent an afternoon chatting about her career. Thanks for sharing her stories with the world!
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