Deborah Savadge's Memories of Hello, Dolly!
A real life Irene Molloy, Deborah Savadge |
Deborah Savadge contacted me after seeing my letter in the
Equity Newsletter in February regarding my Hello, Dolly! book project. She
appeared as Irene Molloy in the Allenberry Playhouse’s production of Hello, Dolly! starring Mary Ellen Ashley
whom I’ve already written about.
This production took place in 1975 at this famed summer stock theater in Boiling Springs, Pennsylvania. The artistic director
was Ed Aldredge.
Deborah was a favorite of the audiences there and Ed Alredge’s
as well. She had already done several performances there. She does believe it
is Mary Ellen’s only production there. Deborah shaired with me that once Ed
cast you, IF he liked you, he tended to be very loyal and book those same
actors time and time again. She was one of those lucky ones and had done
several productions prior to Dolly! She
does admit without going into too
much detail that if Ed liked you, it felt as if you were walking on water.
If
he didn’t, it couldn’t have been that much fun. Deborah has directed a lot
since doing Dolly! in ’75, and she believes that it is a director’s obligation
to “pretend” that he likes you even if he doesn’t.
The actor who played Cornelius Hackl in this production had
a gorgeous voice and was very handsome but was somewhat lacking in the acting
department. Unfortunately, he was not
very popular with the company and even less so with Ed.
One night as the courtroom was being staged, Deborah was
instructed to move at a very specific moment. “Cornelius” started gesturing for
Deborah to move sooner. Ed called the rehearsal to a halt and reprimanded
“Cornelius” somewhat brutishly in front of the entire company. Deborah bristles
about that to this day. Ed’s strengths as a director come from his experiences
as a Broadway stage manager. They always started on time. He knew what he
wanted. She doesn’t feel it would have been the same experience if they were
working on a brand new play that they had to get on its feet.
He cast really
well and wasn’t into a lot of “exploration” of the show. He had a really good
eye for actors. Because of his casting choices, he rarely had to make up for
“deficiencies”. He knew when to “leave somebody alone”. If you knew what you
were doing, he didn’t “muck around” with you a lot. He knew what he wanted and
if the actor and he were on the same wave length, that was fine. Since Mary
Ellen had done the show before, he gave her free reign to do what she did.
After the show opened, Ed gave a few notes the first few
nights and then focused on their next show.
He wasn’t a “pep talky” kind of guy but he loved the women
in the company and would come by the dressing room each night with encouraging
words for everyone.
Mary Ellen Ashley |
This was the second musical that Allenberry produced.
Deborah did mostly
comedies which is what the Allenberry Playhouse mostly did. They did two
musicals every year. Mary Ellen had already racked up several productions of Dolly! prior to Allenberry. Mary had actually sent along to the musical
director all of her music in her keys which were different from the original
keys. Ed Aldredge directed this
production. He was the assistant stage
manager in the original production of Cabaret
on Broadway as well as other productions.
That run ran about three weeks. Stephen Rogers on Radio station WHYL, out of Pennsylvania,
had this to say about Mary Ellen Ashley, “ Mary Ellen Ashley exhibits a very
strong leading character with an equally impressive voice. She runs the show
from beginning to end with the flare and finesse of a seasoned professional.
Even at the curtain call, she offers fame with a lavish new costume.” Jim Lockhart played Horace Vandergelder.
The only other Dollys that Deborah has seen are Pearl Bailey
and Barbra Streisand. Being first and foremost an actress, Deborah actually
prefers The Matchmaker over Hello, Dolly! She feels that sometimes, Dolly! gets away from what Thornton
Wilder has in mind. She feels, however, that when Mary Ellen did it, she
absolutely captured what Wilder had in mind.
Shirley Booth in the film version of The Matchmaker |
Deborah feels that Dolly!,
as opposed to The Matchmaker, is a personality dominated vehicle. She feels
that Dolly!
has become somewhat of a “cult musical” and sometimes gets stretched beyond its
original based on the portrayal of the personality leading the production. With all due respect to other women who have
portrayed Dolly, with Mary Ellen in the role, there was nothing “freakish or
weird about it.” Deborah feels that Mary Ellen was fabulous in the role and
should be doing it everywhere! She went on to say that “Everyone who loves the
theatre should see Mary Ellen do this role.”
Deborah never saw Carol Channing play Dolly. However, there
are so many iconic images of her doing the show, that she almost feels as if
she did. For Deborah, there are two types of actors: those who inhabit a role;
those who get the character and play that character as the playwright
intended. Then there are those that
bring THEIR personality to a role and that informs everything they do. Deborah feels that a “personality actress”
can often be very entertaining. But for Deborah, that is not as thrilling as it
is to see the playwright’s character brought to life through the craft of
acting. Mary Ellen falls into the “craft” category. No one, that includes Pearl
Bailey and Barbra Streisand, embodied the role the way Mary Ellen did,
according to Deborah.
Deborah had a great time doing this show. Ed Aldredge,
having a stage manager’s background, always ran a pretty tight ship. She feels
despite it being a summer stock show, it was pretty grand. Musical theater,
once again, really is not Deborah’s world. She believes she was cast because
Irene Molloy is a very “realistic” character. A character with realistic hopes
and dreams. Deborah also happens to be an actress who sings. She loved her
terrific costumes. Hat shop scene was loads of fun. Ed Aldredge was always a
pleasure to work with. She and he belong to a “mutual admiration society”.
Mary Ellen Fisher |
Deborah is now a teacher and there is a certain part of that
show that she often refers to in her teaching, Mary Ellen’s curtain call. Mary
Ellen did the most generous curtain call that Deborah has ever seen. She tells
her students that they have two choices in making a curtain call. One she calls
the Russian way of taking a curtain call, “Wasn’t I magnificent!?!?!” and then
bowing as if you felt you were magnificent. The other is the Mary Ellen style. “Isn’t this
a wonderful company that I have been lucky enough to appear with?” She was
rather extraordinary and gave her bow over to the company. Deborah tells me the audience was dying to
applaud for Mary Ellen because of the performance she gave and she shared that
very graciously with her company. Deborah has carried that moment through the
rest of her career.
Deborah's Favorite moments
Ribbons
Down My Back , Elegance and Put On Your Sunday Clothes.
Deborah's thoughts on the Allenberry Playhouse:
A beautifully
family owned and run…which sadly is now non-Equity. The Heinz family although she doesn’t
think they were THAT Heinz family! It was a gorgeous old styled barn theater.
It had about 400 seats. There were restaurants on the grounds and a swimming
pool. The nearest “metropolis” is Carlysle, Pennsylvania where Dickenson
College is. Again, lots of fun. The company was very close. They ate meals
together. They stayed in people’s homes in the town. Deborah stayed with an
older woman by the name of Marge Lyon and her cats. Deborah had a gorgeous room
there. This was in Boiling Springs. This was not within walking distance of the
theater. Rides were provided for most of the cast members to and from the
theater from where they were staying. Since Deborah was spending a great deal
of time at the theater, she bought a car which was a big deal for her. As is
true with many summer theaters, they rehearsed one show during the day while
doing another at night. Jim (Horace) Lockhart also wrote plays for the theater.
Deborah appeared in that, as well. It was called Honeymoon Caper, which pretty much tells you what the show was
about. Additionally, Deborah appeared in Wait
Until Dark, Private Lives, In One Bed and Out The Other, Ten Nights in a
Barroom…somewhat of a mixed bag. Deborah
seems to recall Hello, Dolly! playing
back to back with Cabaret.
On their downtown, the cast would congregate at a local
restaurant and order chicken wings or at the pool.
Her only regret is that the actor playing Cornelius opposite
her was not a very “generous” performer and did not give her lots to work with.
Deborah’s thoughts on Jerry Herman is that it is really
great material.
Since appearing at the Allenberry Playhouse in 1975, one of
the biggest changes that Deborah has seen is the death of so many theaters,
theaters that she would love to see come back in her lifetime.
The music, the songs are pretty surefire. If a Dolly is not
as lovable as Mary Ellen was, it won’t work. The audience is rooting for Dolly
to get Horace, who doesn’t always seems like a prize. Thorntom Wilder’s
material is extraordinary. Unfortunately a portfolio of pictures from Deborah's shows at the Allenberry Playhouse were stolen but her memories of Allenberry, Mary Ellen Ashley, and Hello, Dolly! will never be stolen!
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This Blog is dedicated to ALL THE DOLLYS and ANYONE who has EVER had a connection with ANY of them on ANY Level!
Thank
you Deborah for the gifts you have given and continue to give
to the world! I am looking forward to sharing your memories with the world! Just you wait!!
With grateful XOXOXs ,
I want this to be a definitive account of Hello, Dolly!
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