Matt Loehr and Hello, Dolly!
Matt Loehr |
Matt Loehr, currently appearing as Cornelius in the
Northshore Music Theater production, is no stranger to Hello, Dolly! This is
his third Dolly within the last two years!
He first appeared in the chorus in 1997,
when he was nineteen, with the great Gretchen Wyler in the title role.
It was
Gretchen’s last stage appearance. This was at St. Louis’ famed MUNY theater
performing before a nightly audience of 12,000-the largest outdoor theater in
America. Matt has seen the film but has
never seen any other production of Dolly other than those he has appeared in. He
was in the ensemble and it was one of the most extraordinary experiences of his
life.
Certainly at that point in his life but it is also a huge fond memory for him.
Certainly at that point in his life but it is also a huge fond memory for him.
This was, in his mind, what a true star was. Such presence every moment in
the rehearsal studio. She was so on it. When she would come down those
impressive stairs on this massive stage, Matt would get chills every night. He
felt like he was in the presence of royalty, which he was. He was in the
presence of Broadway royalty. He says she was the most gracious star. She loved
her boys. There was such camaraderie among them. She danced beautifully. He
says it still warms his heart thinking about her.
That was his first entry into
the live Dolly world. That production was directed by Paul Blake. Lee Roy Reams
had been approached to direct but was not available. Randy Slovocek restaged
Gower Champion’s choreography. Randy went out to be a part of the 1995 revival
and is a prominent fixture of Dori Berenstein’s award winning and critically
documentary Carol Channing: Larger Than
Life.
North Carolina company |
Move ahead to 2011.
By this time, Matt was a little more seasoned, was living in North Carolina
with his partner and auditions for North Carolina’s production starring Cybill
Shepherd. He gets cast as Cornelius Hackl! Four days before opening, Cybill
injures herself at her residence and has to pull out of the production. Enter
Jacqueline Piro Donovan ( Jackie Piro, the Hero,who saves the day in true star
fashion. (I will be interviewing Jacqueline next week.)
Vicki Lewis and Co. |
Earlier this year, Matt once again played Cornelius at Maltz
Jupiter Theater (Read interviews with Gary Beach/Horace, Vicki Lewis/Dolly, and
Marcia Milgrom-Dodge). As stated above, Matt is once again playing Cornelius at
Northshore…again with Gary Beach as Cornelius AND with Jacqueline Piro
Donavan…who is a replacement for an injured Lorna Luft!
Matt and I sat down to talk yesterday on one of his few days
off to discuss all things Dolly!
Matt had worked with Casey Hushion, artistic director of
North Carolina Theater. They had done several shows together. They had worked
on Minsky’s at the Ahmanson Theatre.
They had also done the ELF workshop
and on Broadway. He says they have none each other for a few years now and that
she is one of the greatest people on the planet and so smart.
Matt and his partner had moved to Winston-Salem, North
Carolina, his new home base. His partner is the director of the stage
management department of the prestigious North Carolina School of the Arts,
just finishing his second year. They had previously lived in New Jersey. As
they were moving down, Casey approached Matt about doing Dolly at North
Carolina Theater. He was already contracted to do Crazy For You at the Maltz. This worked out perfectly, Dolly would be starting a week later. So
he went on to do Dolly in Raleigh, which is two hours from his new home. This
was his foray into the North Carolina arts scene. At North Carolina Theater, it
is a ten day rehearsal process with a ten day run. On the fourth day, star
Cybill Shepherd is in a wheel chair because of a fall outside her complex. Everyone was tense with no one saying what
was going to happen. They were supposed to do an invited run through in two
days and no one knew what was going to happen. Then all of a sudden Jackie Piro
shows up the next day! She had never played Dolly before. She had done Irene
Molloy years prior in Pittsburgh. She was fearless and just went for it. Matt
says he still does not know how she pulled that off. She has NO fear! As you
know, Dolly is the anchor. She is constantly driving that ship. Making things
happen. Matt says he was in awe of how she stepped into that company and that
show and how she took command of it. When he heard that she would be coming
into the Northshore production to replace an injured Lorna Luft, he sent her an
email prior. This company has the luxury of a two week rehearsal period. He
asked her what she was going to do with all that time. She responded by saying”
maybe learn the lines in specific detail.” He says it is now to watch her
settled into the role and such a commanding Dolly.
Gary Beach and Vicki Lewis |
Matt’s Thoughts on Gary Beach as Horace Vandergelder
“Do you have three days?” He is truly Matt’s idol. He has
known him for twelve years. They started The
Producers together. Matt says watching him in the rehearsal process and
seeing his commitment to the work is akin to getting a master class every day. It
is great reconnecting with him again, and in a role where he doesn’t wear a
dress…although he WOULD make a great Dolly! “It is fun to see him play such a
loveable curmudgeon.” That is the perfect fit for Vandergelder. You can’t
dislike him and yet you don’t instantly fall in love with him. He is a bit of a
miserly grump. Beach has the perfect blend of the humor and the seriousness of
the character. It becomes utterly delightful. Matt says watching him in the
dinner scene, he is getting so furious with Dolly. She won’t let him get a word
in edgewise. He keeps shouting out interjections such as “I don’t want to be
charming!” “Only Gary Beach could make every single line absolutely hysterical
but absolutely real.” THAT is why Matt idolizes Gary. He is truly one of the funniest
people he has ever seen on stage. As theatrical as his performances are, they
are grounded in a very real sense. It’s always coming out of something very
real. He is ALWAYS in the moment and the definition of inspiration.
Maltz Jupiter Theater Production of Hello, Dolly!
Marcia Migrom Dodge |
“I LOVED IT!” To do a completely different version from what
Matt had done at North Carolina Theater was exciting. Marcia Milgrom-Dodge, who
he so loved working with and hopes to again, has such strong visions for her
productions. She never wants to do what has already been done. She had very
strong ideas on how Cornelius should be played. The minute he makes this
decision to go out and seek adventure and kiss a girl, for example. This is a
thirty-three year old man who has never kissed a girl in 1899. That would
equate to someone who would be in their fifties now. There is a lot of pent up
energy there! Once he makes that decision, it is “fly by the seat of your
pants!” He has no baggage. The freedom of that elevated the humor and the
physicality of all that was great for Matt. Everything was happening and it was
happening in such a big way because Cornelius is like a baby. Everywhere he
steps is brand new. He is nervous and excited. “He sort of vomits his words
out.” Once he grows and gets to the court room scene, it is one of the most
blessed speeches ever written. He loves It
Only Takes A Moment into this speech. This is such a tremendous payoff
because he has lived and he knows what love is. He has settled into his
essence. This is such a great moment for any actor who has taken this journey,
who gets to make this arc. Marcia really elevated that for Matt.
Matt tells me that each of his three directors have had
their own individual vision of how
Shayla Benoit and Gary Beach Maltz Jupiter Theater |
Cornelius should be played: the relationship
between Cornelius and Barnaby and the relationship between Cornelius and Mrs.
Molloy. He has also had a different Irene Molloy and Barnaby each time. He has
loved them all because they all have brought their own stamp to their roles and
they ALL work which is a true testament to how solid this show is.
Charles Repole, director Northshore, wanted Cornelius to be
a tad more cautious in how he steps into this world, not overly methodical. A
gentler approach. He thinks this works perfectly opposite his current Barnaby
and Mrs. Molloy. Although these are two
extremely different approaches, he feels the payoff is the same. He feels that
courtroom scene is like taking the biggest exhale ever every time he does it.
He could do it over and over and getting to do it in front of an audience is
thrilling. He had never experienced the thrill of being able to talk directly
to the audience before. The first time he did it in North Carolina, he found
that he really loved that.
He also feels that it has helped him to grow as a
performer. You have to trust who you are as that character. Matt is a very
physical person. He comes from a very strong dance background. Being able to
speak directly with the audience has been a real eye opener. That is a selfish
thing he will carry with him throughout his career. The other is having had,
thus far, to play opposite three incredible Dollys. Gretchen was the first star
he had ever appeared with on stage and he will never forget that.
Gary Beach and Vicki Lewis |
Each of these directors capitalized on the strongest
abilities of their casts. The best example would probably be the hat shop scene
and the Motherhood March. There is so
much movement and comedic timing and each one was very different. Each
capitalized on Matt’s strongest points and brought those forth. In the Dancing
number, Marcia and Matt created a step together that she is utilizing once
again in her restaging of Music Man
at Glimmerglass Opera, a very Ray Bolgerish move, the legs are moving, the hips
are moving. It got a huge response in Florida. Very silly and fun and oddly
difficult. Matt said he was so tired after that moment. He said he was moving
very much like the scarecrow. “All great directors work with the actors they
have in front of them utilizing their best. Charlie, Casey, and Marcia are
perfect examples of this. They see what their actors can do and mold everything
around that. They are all very collaborative”
Vicki Lewis |
Matt has been a fan of Vicki Lewis ever since he saw her on
The Tonys doing her number from Damn
Yankees. He remembers saying, “Who is this powerhouse?” To see how she
brought the most unique, vivacious, crafty, sensuous Dolly to life and on top
of that, to get to know her as a person. “One of the funniest, finest persons
on the planet.” He now spends some afternoons thinking, “What would be a good
show for Vicki to do?” Something that he could possibly co-star in, as well!
And, now, getting to do it with Jackie again! Both Vicki and
Jackie are musical comedy forces but their Dollys couldn’t be more different.
Their sensibilities are so different but they both work. Jackie has a drive
about her, she just lights up the stage with her smile and her presence. He
loves doing Dancing with her every
night.
He thinks Christine Ebersol and Beth Level would also make
great Dollys.
Gary Beach, Jerry Herman, Vicki Lewis, Andrew Kato, Fran Weisler |
There are so many moments that stand out for Matt. However
that chord of “Out there, there’s a world outside of Yonkers…”is musical
theater at its greatest, according to Matt. On each of his opening nights, that
moment solidifies that “we are on board”.
His journey begins. “It is that brilliance that Jerry Herman wrote that
goes right into ‘Sunday Clothes’ , I get goose bumps every time.” This is his
first Jerry Herman show and he knows why Jerry has reached the iconic stage.
“He writes incredibly perfect music for a show.” Jerry saw the show at the
Maltz. It was a thrill for Matt to meet him. He looks incredible and was
pleased with the production. “He is a musical theater genius.”
Matt believes that he brings a lot of sincerity and humor to
Cornelius. Also, his physicality, his strengths as a dancer. He brings a lot of
humor about Cornelius’ learning how to dance because Matt knows his body so
well. He knows how to create that “heightened awkwardness in learning”. That’s
something as opposed to someone who is not a dancer playing the same scene.
Matt also considers himself a pretty open vulnerable man. That’s what he loves
about Cornelius, as well. Slightly goofy. All of those things need to be
embraced as well. THAT’s what Matt brings to the table. Why Matt loves live
theater as opposed to filmed media, although he has not pursued the later, is
because he loves being in the moment and
letting things unfold as they do. He is always pursuing perfection with it.
Because it is live, you also get to let that part go at the same time. When you
know those words so well, just respond with what you are given. Each audience
is different and that plays into it, as well. Recently, he found a funny
vocal-ism when he was explaining to Irene why they couldn’t go to the Harmonia
Gardens. Nonsense came out of his mouth which got a laugh. He thought, “Well,
that is kind of funny”. It just developed out of the moment. He tries to not
make it exactly the same every night but within the basic structure. He doesn’t
change moves or anything along those lines.
North Carolina and Maltz Jupiter Theaters are both
proscenium theaters. Northshore is in the round. Therefore, there are also
logistical differences. At both North Carolina and Maltz, the quartet
(Cornelius, Barnaby, Irene, and Minnie) are hidden behind a curtain. To amuse
themselves and Dolly, when she peeks in as she’s “just getting acquainted”,
they would resort to anything just for fun. One night, for example, they were
all wearing Groucho Marx glasses. Of course, the audience never sees this!
“Very unprofessional but keeps the energy flowing”. One time they pretended to
be playing instruments. Read my chapter on Vicki going up on her lyrics! “I’m
gonna carry on. I’m gonna get a trombone.” They grabbed a trombone and a carry
on bag! Vicki, being solid, was able to just continue with the scene. He does
love those moments.
Doing Dolly, Matt has learned about comedy and sincerity.
Not getting in the way of certain comedic moments such as the structure of the
hat shop scene. It is a farce with a lot of physical comedy. Everyone has to
trust each other and make every move and line happen as it is staged. Prior to
Dolly, Matt had never done a scene as intricate as that one. The other moment,
as discussed, is the growth and arc of the character, such as the courtroom
scene.
Matt’s worst experience as Cornelius, he is experiencing
NOW! Because they are theater in the round, the wardrobe closet that Cornelius
usually hides in in the hat shop scene, usually standing up, has been replaced
with a trunk here. He is in a tight little trunk for what feels like five
hours….in full darkness…in a full suit…and it is really, really hot! He does
not look forward to that every night. He does have a little mini fan to keep
his air going and they’ve cut out a few air holes. Thank God, he is not
claustrophobic but he empathizes with those that are.
Northshore Music Theater Cast |
The biggest change that Matt has seen in the industry since
doing Dolly with Gretchen Wyler in 1997 is the competition. Thousands of
television channels and video games and Netflix and movies on demand. People
don’t go out as much as they used to. The MUNY is a 12,000 seat outdoor amphitheater.
There would be thousands night after night. The Maltz also is doing great due
to their size. It is getting harder to get people to go to the theater. Gary
Beach and Matt have had discussions on this. appeared with on stage and he will never forget that. Theater USED to be a part of
people’s culture. The competition has caused that to shift for many, whether it
be financial or otherwise. They just don’t go out as much and it is tougher to
get people into those seats.
When Matt is not on the boards, he trains daily.
He tap dances in his garage. He vocalizes. He reads and works on new material.
He studies up on songs from roles he hopes to play. The longer he is in this business,
one thing is constant: You have to keep your maintenance up. If you don’t act
or sing for stretches of time, you will have a harder time getting back into
it. He also loves teaching dance and audition technique to younger artists. He
loves to teach and considers himself lucky that he grew up with really great
teachers and arts programs. He feels that it is really important to pass on
your knowledge. Whenever he gets the opportunity, he does that as well."Put On Your Sunday Clothes " with the company of North Shore Music Theatre's production of HELLO, DOLLY! Photo by Paul Lyden Thank you to Matt Loehr for the gifts you have given to the world and continue to give!
With grateful XOXOXs ,
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RICHARD SKIPPER CELEBRATES Ronald Young
In his new memoir, "The Only Boy Who Danced: A Journey
from Oklahoma to Broadway and Beyond", Ronald Young details an eventful
life in the theater. The Only Boy Who Danced: A Journey from Oklahoma to Broadway
and Beyond.
Sometimes Broadway dreams do come true. Fresh from the obscurity of living in the small farming community of Grove, Oklahoma, Ronald Young, at 22, is catapulted onto New York City's "Great White Way"... BROADWAY. After arriving in Manhattan on a Friday, he auditions for his first Broadway show on Monday. Bingo! After three call back auditions he snags his first dancing role in the soon to be mega hit "HELLO, DOLLY!" directed and choreographed by Gower Champion and starring Carol Channing. Armed with three music degrees and lots of enthusiasm he embarks on his career on Broadway. His resume includes working with some of the legends of the theater: Ethel Merman, Shirley Booth, Angela Lansbury, Tommy Tune, Bernadette Peters, Joel Gray, Chita Rivera, Sandy Duncan, Georgia Engel and many others. He appeared in a host of shows: "MAME," "GEORGE M!" "THE BOY FRIEND," "MY ONE AND ONLY," "A CHORUS LINE" and the films "HAIR" and "ANNIE." "THE ONLY BOY WHO DANCED" is a series of compelling, riveting stories about Ronald Young's personal quest to make it on Broadway. If you or a friend have hidden aspirations to make it on the New York theatrical scene, you will enjoy his tips and suggestions on how to break through this tough barrier. Richard Skipper and Ronald Young are sitting down for an exploration of Ronald's incredible career in show business. Email Richard at Richard@RichardSkipper.com for more info Please do what YOU can to be more aware that words and actions DO HURT...but they can also heal and help!
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