Ellen Travolta on Hello, Dolly!
Dolly Levi was back in Coeur d’Alene in the summer of 2012 after a ten year absence,
and it was brought back by Ellen Travolta who brought her there in the first place.
Ellen Travolta is the eldest sibling of John Travolta and is
probably best known for her portrayal of Louisa Arcola Delvecchio, the mother
of Chachi Arcola (Scott Baio) in the 1950s-based sitcom Happy Days, and
unsuccessful spinoff, Joanie Loves Chachi. She also played the mother of Baio's
character on Charles in Charge from 1987 to 1990. But for our purposes, we are
focusing on two productions of Hello, Dolly in which she starred as Dolly Levi!
Around 1989, Ellen Travolta and her husband were both still
doing television but were thinking about retiring from the business and were
looking for a summer home.
They heard about Coeur d’Alene Idaho through Daniel
Baldwin. He had guested on Charles in
Charles. After Daniel had given Coeur d’Alene a big build up, Ellen went
home and told Jack they had to check it out.
Coeur D'Alene |
She had a hiatus coming up the
following week. They flew up and fell in love with the area. There is a
beautiful park on the lake and they were strolling through. They get stopped by
two people who recognize them from television. They wanted to know why Ellen
and Jack were in Coeur d’Alene. Ellen told them they were looking for a home.
They then asked Ellen and Jack if they wanted to be in a play!
Ellen asked what
play. They didn’t know they were going to move there yet. She was still doing Charles in Charge. They were then told
that the new season of the Coeur d’ Alene Summer Theater was going to be
opening the next season with Company.
Ellen and Jack thought about it
and opened that summer’s season in 1990. They didn’t actually move there till
’94. Until then, they would go up in the summer and do shows. Company was the
very first show at this theater and Ellen and Jack have been a major part of the
building of this summer theater from the beginning at this location.
Artistic
director Roger Welch came on board in 1994.He was in his early twenties. Ellen
and Jack are very proud of this theater.
It is Broadway in their own backyard. Actors are brought in
from New York.
The caliber is high.
It is an amazing theater.
Ellen and her husband semi retired to Coeur d’Alene Idaho.
Ellen got involved with the Coeur d’Alene summer theater. Artistic director,
Roger Welch, approached her and asked her how she felt about doing Hello, Dolly!
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
An interesting choice
because Ellen IS Dolly in her soul.
She looked at Roger and asked, “Why would
you want me as Dolly?” She didn’t get why he was asking her at all. She agreed
to look into it and ended up doing it. She loved doing it. She had an absolute
wonderful time playing opposite her husband. This was in 2000. Time went on and
they were all sitting around talking one night.
They were discussing upcoming
show possibilities. Ellen, by this point had done many shows with this theater
including Gypsy. She told Roger that
there was only one show that she would like to do again and that was Hello, Dolly! She felt that she could do
it better.
She feels that Jerry Herman’s music is just incredible. When
an actress gets the opportunity to play in a show like Dolly where the music
and lyrics are so fine and tells the story so well, it’s a real treat.
She did bring her age and wisdom to both productions. One
gets wiser with time. She also brought more insight to Dolly. Her Dolly was
very real/
When she first appeared in Hello, Dolly in 2000, she
approached Dolly first of all by reading The
Matchmaker.
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
Then she read the script of Hello, Dolly! She looked at what
the other characters said about her and what she said about herself. From
there, she started to build a character. That is how she approaches most roles.
She started working rather early on it. When theater is done as quickly as it
is done at this theater, a two week rehearsal period, it pays for the artists
involved to go in knowing their roles. They need to know their lines and their
music. Ellen doesn’t read music. She is “old school.” She learns by listening
to it.
She most recently did it in the summer of 2012.
She didn’t
exactly approach it differently, she understood it differently. Before the Parade Passes By is much more
poignant when the actress is seventy two than it was when she was sixty. There
is not sadness, but rather, a connection with the realities. No matter how
wonderful life is, it does pass you by. It goes very quickly and it is
important to do the things one desires to do before it is too late.
Because Ellen had played Dolly before, it was in the back of
her head. It is stored somewhere in the brain. There were many déjà vue
moments. The thing to remember always, especially after a show is running a
while, is to listen.
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
Even after doing it a while, sometimes something will be said,
and you are truly HEARING it for the first time.
“Oh my God, THAT’S what that
means or that IS what that reaction should be.”
This time around, Ellen was
constantly very present. Some performers can walk through a performance after
they’ve done it more than a few times. Ellen was totally there one hundred
percent of the time and LISTENING to all the other players. The most
fundamental thing for all actors is to listen and some don’t do that.
An interesting note is that Ellen was on the road with Ethel
Merman in Gypsy when she was originally offered Dolly!
As has previously been reported, Merman turned it down. Ellen was a kid in the show at the
time along with Alice Playten who would go on to play Ermengarde in the
original Broadway company of Dolly.
Ellen never saw any of the Broadway Dollys. Her only frame
of reference before getting involved with Dolly was the film starring Barbra
Streisand who was so YOUNG when she did it. It didn’t compute to Ellen.
She had
seen a production of The Matchmaker
on stage. She loves the music. She certainly had heard Carol Channing sing it.
Roger took Ellen to Seattle to see a production of Dolly with the idea of
convincing her that she SHOULD do Dolly. It wasn’t a “name” performer.
It was a
small summer theater production. It
wasn’t a well known theater and the production values weren’t that great but
the music was great and the title song stopped the show. It always does.
Ellen’s take on why that is is the boys! When Ellen ended up doing the show,
during this number, she would always turn to face the boys upstage. Roger kept
telling her that she couldn’t turn her back on the audience. In this instance,
she felt that it was justified. She felt that they needed to be looked at, that
the audience should be watching the “boys”. Before
the Parade Passes By and So Long,
Dearie are Dolly’s numbers. Hello,
Dolly belongs to the boys.
As soon as Ellen started reading Hello, Dolly and working on the music, she fell in love with it.
Before The Parade Passes By (Courtesy: Roger Welch) |
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
She thought, “Wow! What a wonderful entertaining caring woman Dolly is and what
fun she is.” What courage Dolly has! And she is so manipulative. Ellen’s
granddaughter picked up watching Ellen play her Dolly’s habit of “putting her
hand in.”
Her granddaughter now says,
“Grandma, I’ve discovered something else you can put your hand into!”
She asked
her mom if “Grandma” will be putting her hand in with God, too, when she dies!
She
said to Jack, “Grandpa, I can’t help noticing Grandma makes all the plans. Is
that OK with you?” Jack told her that was sweet of her to ask. He is not a barn
burner. It is fine that Ellen makes the plans. Prior to this interview, a group
of friends were going to New York to see Roger Welch’s partner, Mark Cotter,
who was appearing at The Metropolitan Room. Like Dolly, Ellen felt a strong
urge to put her hand and take care of all of the details… for everybody!
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
She
desired to tell everybody what to do and how to do it. That is something deep
in her DNA. Perhaps it comes from being the oldest of six children. She has an
over developed sense of responsibility.
When there is a challenge, she desires
to fix it. It all goes with the Dolly territory. Even if something is
peripheral, she somehow feels an urgency to somehow straighten it all out.
Ellen has a distinction that none of the most famous Dollys
have.
Ellen Travolta and Jack Bannon |
Her leading man also happens to be her husband. Jack Bannon is a sweet
man and a tender actor.
He is a brilliant Horace Vandergelder, just phenomenal.
His curmugedy side always touched
her.
Because she knows Jack so well, she treated that side of his character as
a cover up.
This theater is an eleven hundred seat theater. It is a big summer
theater audience and they are familiar with Ellen and Jack over the years and
there is a real attachment to them. It meant a lot to everyone to see them do
it together just as they did in 2000. There were many performances in which
Ellen cried as they danced at the end of the show. It was just there. That was
her favorite moment each night. She would look into his sweet face and that was
it.
Ellen also had great supporting players. Irene Molloy was
played by Krista Kubicek.
Jeremy Adams |
Jeremy Adams played
Barnaby.
Andrew Ware Lewis was Cornelius. Callie McKinney Cabe played Minnie
Fay. It was an incredible cast and in addition to Ellen and Jack, Krista and
Callie had also done it before in the 2000 production.
It was restaged by the
same choreographer brought in from Seattle, Mike Wasileski.
Set Design by
Michael McGiveney and and costume design by Jessica Ray.
Roger Welch directed.
Roger is a wonderful director and a beautiful man. He has been with this
theater for twenty-five years.
Without a doubt, Ellen would place Hello, Dolly in the TOP
FIVE shows of her career.
Steven Dahlke, who was
the music director for this production. He said to Ellen that Dolly is a perfect show, the script, the
music, the way it evolves. There is nothing wasted. It is a perfectly balanced
show with great music.
Andrew Ware Lewis |
During the course of rehearsals and the show, the eating scene in the Harmonia Gardens drove them crazy trying to figure out what they used ten years prior. No one could remember! They
experimented with marshmallows, cotton candy, bread, and they couldn’t remember
what they used the first time EVEN after watching a video of the 2000
production! She also tried researching what Channing had used and couldn’t.
Every night, they used something different.
She wishes that she had done way
more research on this before beginning. For the record, on Broadway, the
dumplings were tissue paper molded over light bulbs to give the look of
dumplings.
The compliments continue to flow from these productions of Dolly. People still stop her on the
street. There is also a sense of melancholia at this point in Ellen’s life for
the people who have passed on and life passing by. Ellen recently didn’t know
many of the actors on the Emmy Awards. They are not her friends.
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
At one time,
all of her friends were at the Emmys. It was at that time that she was part of
that business. It may sound plebeian and trite, but the one thing that Ellen has
taken from Dolly is to try and make it all count, the days, really live them.
Really go for it.
Ellen is in really good health and has a lot of energy. So
many of her friends are not doing well. These are constant reminders. All of these aspects are how Dolly has
affected Ellen. It has also affected audiences worldwide for fifty years.
Today’s audiences are more mature, age wise. That younger audience has to be
found. The theater has changed.
The original in a long line of Dollys |
Shows like Gypsy,
Hello, Dolly, and the Music Man are not coming along any
more. A lot of the audiences for this type of entertainment have died off. It’s
a tough job now with marketing and finding the right shows. In the case of
Dolly, that age bracket of fifty five and over were deeply affected by Ellen’s
portrayal. At the time of this writing, her seventy third birthday was
approaching. “If she can do it,she will!”
She has been told that her performance
has made some women look at their husband differently. The romantic aspects of
the show AND the energy aspects truly affected the audiences who saw it.
One night as she was coming down the stairs in the title
number, she looked down and the shoelaces of her high boots were untied and
they were dangling. As she was descending the stairs, she was thinking that she
had that whole number ahead of her. Fortunately, she saw it. So did the players
on both sides of her! The audience wasn’t aware of this potential catastrophe.
She does the number…very carefully. After the number, during the eating scene,
she is directed to go upstage to where the other four players are also dining.
She asked one of the actors to tie her boots while Jack was speaking.
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
Barnaby/Jeremy tied her shoes. After the show that night, everyone told her how
frightened they were for her. They were so afraid that she was going to step on
those laces and tumble down the stairs. That is one time when one’s
concentration is all over the place.
All of a sudden she is thinking, “Where am
I and what am I doing?”
Closing night was a family affair. Ellen’s brother, John,
and his family came up for her and Jack. Ellen’s sister and daughter were also
in this production. All of the Travolta family are in the business. Their
sister Margaret played Mrs. Rose. The cross over between Dolly and Mrs. Rose is
one of Ellen’s favorite moments in the show. It was equally poignant because
they are sisters. She also played the judge in the docket scene in the second
act, also terrific. Ellen’s daughter Molly Allen played Ernestina Money! They
had to pad her. She is a big radio personality in Spokane. She has a number one
six to ten AM drive program, Dave, Ken and
Molly in the Morning.
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
After the show, they all went out and had a late
supper a la Dolly style. They all stayed at the Davenport Hotel in Spokane
Washington. They drove across the state line because there was a big triathlon
happening the next day in Coeur d’Alene. They knew that they had to stay. They
wouldn’t be able to get back the next day anyway. It literally shuts down the
city. John has seen Ellen in every show except the 2000 Dolly. He finally got to see her do in 2012 and just loved it. John
is a fan of Dolly. When he was a young actor in New York, he used to “second
act” Dolly all the time. He would mill around with the crowd during
intermission and sneak in with them as they returned after intermission.
Ellen doesn’t know if she would like to play Dolly again. She
will reserve saying yes or no until that time when she is asked. At this point,
she is not thinking about doing it again.
Hello, Dolly to Ellen Travolta means she CAN DO IT!
Courtesy: Roger Welch |
Thank you Ellen Travolta for the gifts you have given to the world and will continue to give!
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Hi Richard: Thank you so much for this wonderful interview with Ellen Travolta! What a great career she has--I would love to have seen her in a production of Dolly. I agree with her when she mentions that one should do the things one desires to do before it's too late--before the parade passes by. In the Bible it says, "And it came to pass," and I've heard it remarked that opportunities are presented for a time, and then that time passes--the song just reminded me of that. I would like to leave you a testimonial for the help you gave us, and I'm not exactly sure where to do that, but I will do it right here, and you may use it as you wish. "Richard is a very generous and knowledgeable coach, and as up-and-coming cabaret entertainers, we were greatly inspired and encouraged with his valuable suggestions and tips for growing our career, as well as the wonderful background that he shared with us about New York Cabaret in times past and present. I encourage other cabaret artists to be sure to take his social media class, and learn from this experienced entertainer, cabaret lover and exceptional mentor." I also gave you a shout-out on our cabaret blog tonight and encouraged readers to check out your blogs! Thanks again, Richard, and have a lovely evening!
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