Joel Hatch on Hello, Dolly!
Joel Hatch has a very impressive resume. As of this writing,
he is currently appearing on Broadway in the current revisal of Annie.
He has also appeared in Billy
Elliot, Adding Machine, and Annie Warbucks. Joel also played Horace Vandergelder opposite
Alene Robertson’s Dolly Levi in Hello,
Dolly!
Joel’s first memories of Hello,
Dolly are of Louis Armstrong’s recording of the song Hello, Dolly and the movie. He had never seen the musical on stage
until he did it. The first time he saw it was the movie. He loved the movie. He
is glad he had not seen it on stage prior to doing it. That allowed him a lot
of freedom to figure out what he desired to do with Horace. He wasn’t
influenced by anybody else.
As of this writing, he has only done the one
production of Hello, Dolly!
He also did Gypsy
with her after that production.
Dominic Missimi directed Dolly at Marriott Theatre in Lincolnshire, IL in the ‘90s.
Hello, Dolly
continues to succeed because its story drawn from The Matchmaker is one of the finest shows ever written. The
Matchmaker was a perfect play to musicalize.
Alene and Joel had a great mature on stage relationship that
fared very well for Dolly and Horace. They had a very good comfort level with
each other on stage that allowed them to play freely and trust each other.
That
allowed for a lot of spontaneity on stage.
Joel thinks that it is time for a Broadway revisal with
someone that will take it in a completely new direction. When there is such a
strong stamp on a show by such a brilliant and wonderful actress, one has to go
in a completely different direction. Of course, Dolly has to be someone who has
great comedic ability as well as heart. There is a great vulnerability that is
needed, especially at the end of act one when she has her chat with her
deceased husband.
Alene Robertson and waiters |
One thing that Alene and Joel looked forward to each
performance was the eating scene. They had been doing comedy together for so
long that that scene really allowed them to play off of each other. The key is
to have a really great time. The chemistry between Dolly and Horace HAS to
work. The audience has to believe that love/hate relationship and that love
will overcome that.
Joel fell in love in Hello, Dolly by doing it. It is one
thing to see a show; it is a completely different experience doing it and to
explore it from the inside out. That allows an actor to go, “My God, this is a
brilliant piece.”
Joel also loved his off stage moments with Alene. During
those days, she was a smoker. She would do this funny little thing where she
would go into to the hallway where they were allowed to smoke and do her
“warm-up” by taking the cigarette and taking a puff, breathing in through the
cigarette, and going, “Ah! Ah!! Ah!!!” doing her scales with the puff of
cigarette! It was hilarious to see her do this. The entire chase scene through
the Harmonia Gardens was fun for Joel.
Dominic and Joel spent a lot of time going back to the
source material, to ground Horace. It is very easy to make Horace a caricature
and/or a cartoon instead of a real man.
The audience needs to understand where
his pain comes from and his loneliness and what his needs are.
The only other Dolly Joel has seen, Barbra! |
That helps you
understand the comedy a lot better. It also helps you understand why he has the
relationship he has with Barnaby and Cornelius.
All of this clarifies the
various relationships with the other characters he interacts with in the piece,
especially with Dolly. When one understands his background and where his
feelings and emotions come from, that will give a justification to come at her
full throttle.
They had a ten week run with Dolly. Joel and Alene continued to tweak their performances as the
show continues. They were constantly finding new things to play.
Alene Robertson |
There are some actors that actors may find themselves with
on stage who are not really there emotionally and/or mentally. They are inside
their heads somewhere thinking about how they look or how they present
themselves. He never had that with Alene.
She was always right there in the
moment with him. There is nothing she enjoys more than playing, the fun of each
moment. She was always there catching his eye. There would be a glimmer in her
eye and they were off and running. Getting able to work with a fellow actor
that is that spontaneous is an absolute joy. It doesn’t happen that often.
Nancy Missimi, Dominic’s wife, was the costume designer.
Everyone was extremely lucky at the Marriott. The theater was in the round. A
lot of money was not spent building beautiful tableaux behind the cast. The
costumes, for the most part, were the sets in terms for setting the tone for
where they were. The Marriott always invested a great deal of money into the
costumes. Nancy was brilliant with period costumes and giving the actors a better
sense of who their characters were. It is certainly helpful when an actor is
playing someone like Horace to have a costume that establishes that character
just as the actor walks on stage.
Nancy has a great sense of humor as a
designer as well as a great sense of style. They had gorgeous costumes for the
show.
The thing that is important to remember with theater in the
round is that an actor can never turn upstage! The actor really has to be
present for that audience at all times which forces the actor to be more
honest. He or she can’t have a moment where they turn away and giggle. They
have to be in the character in the moment at all times. Slip up and some member
of the audience will see it. This is the greatest education any actor could
have.
Joseph Marzullo/WENN |
That informs an actor on what their discipline should be going forward
with other productions whether they are on a Broadway stage or on any other
stage. Joel does not think there is a “worst thing” about working in the round.
There is always going to be someone who can’t see the actor’s face and that
face projects emotion. That, therefore, teaches the actor to use their full
body to project emotion. What it does is challenge an actor in ways that the
proscenium stage does not. The thing that is brilliant about Hello, Dolly is that it is so true to the original source material.
The source material is a story of such great heart and emotion as well as
comedy. It allows people to have a night of mot only light entertainment, but a
story that asks great questions about relationships. It is a full rich evening
for audiences. That is what the theater should always be trying to accomplish.
One of the challenges of doing theater every night, Joel has
been lucky in that regard, is that he rarely sees theater. He hasn’t seen other
actresses play Dolly other than Streisand.
He loved her, thinking she had great
heart. He loved her in the performance. He loved her on screen relationship
with Matthau.
Alene Robertson is a well known actress in the Chicago area.
Every show has to be tailored to whoever is playing the lead. Period. That is
true if Bernadette Peters is playing the role or Katie Finnerman or ANYONE
else, for that matter. It is not a cookie cutter show. The show has to meet the
actress where she is and she has to bring her life experiences to the table.
That is true of any actor playing any role.
Joel only met Jerry Herman once. It happened when he was
working on the sequel to Annie. Alene
Robertson was also in that production. They spent about a year and a half on
that production on the road and off-Broadway at the Variety Arts Theater in
1993. Jerry Herman came backstage one night. He came up to the dressing room.
It was an off-Broadway dressing room that everyone shared. Harvey Evans and Donna
McKechnie were also in that cast. Jerry Herman spent about twenty minutes chatting
with the company. He was appreciative and supportive and everybody felt better
after he left. It was a very warm supportive chat.
One of the things that Joel has had to do with both of his
roles opposite Alene, Herbie in Gypsy
and Horace, is to make them three dimensional.
In The Matchmaker, there is more to the character of Horace than there
is in Hello, Dolly! Cuts were made here and there to put the emphasis
on the character of Dolly to make the story work in her favor. One of the
challenges was in creating a Horace that was three dimensional, one that is a
real human being and not a gruff character. As state earlier, that really
relied heavily on The Matchmaker and
carried those feelings over to Hello, Dolly’s Horace.
The thing that Joel loves about Great American Musicals
which is our great art form, along with jazz, is that they have integrity and
they have heart. Hello, Dolly has
both in spades.
Mary Martin, one of many Dollys |
It is a dream to get a chance to do it. There are certain
musicals that have been touchstones throughout the history of the American
musical theater that have set the standard for how we view musicals and have
moved the art form forward. Hello, Dolly is one of those musicals because it
tells a story that is rich in its ideas, rich in its heart, and rich in its
artistry.
Thank you Joel Hatch for the gifts you have given to the world and continue to give!
Check out my site celebrating my forthcoming book on Hello, Dolly!
I want this to be a definitive account of Hello, Dolly! If any of you reading this have appeared in any production of Dolly, I'm interested in speaking with you!
If you have anything to add or share, please contact me at Richard@RichardSkipper.com.
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Please do what YOU can to be more aware that words and actions DO HURT...but they can also heal and help!
TILL TOMORROW...HERE'S TO AN ARTS FILLED DAY
This Blog is dedicated to ALL THE DOLLYS and ANYONE who has EVER had a connection with ANY of them on ANY Level!
Thank you Joel Hatch for the gifts you have given to the world and continue to give!
Check out my site celebrating my forthcoming book on Hello, Dolly!
I want this to be a definitive account of Hello, Dolly! If any of you reading this have appeared in any production of Dolly, I'm interested in speaking with you!
If you have anything to add or share, please contact me at Richard@RichardSkipper.com.
NO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT INTENDED. FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY!
Please do what YOU can to be more aware that words and actions DO HURT...but they can also heal and help!
My next blog will be...My exclusive interview with Ellen Travolta on Hello, Dolly!
Thank you, to all the mentioned in this blog!
Thank you, to all the mentioned in this blog!
Here's to an INCREDIBLE tomorrow for ALL...with NO challenges!
TILL TOMORROW...HERE'S TO AN ARTS FILLED DAY
Richard Skipper, Richard@RichardSkipper.com
This Blog is dedicated to ALL THE DOLLYS and ANYONE who has EVER had a connection with ANY of them on ANY Level!
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